Okay now there is so much information on this that I have to post it into a few parts as it just gets difficult to read. Now I want you to first look at how it went down. Now understand that this is a blog where even Laylah from Blue Abaya was called a prostitute and that was not even moderated. In addition, Coolred stated that she and her children were dragged through the mud and it was not moderated. Of course another blogger (Sandy) actually had to request that someone go into moderation when I was being told by a poster that they would come over to my house and sexually serve my families needs as I was not man enough to do it. Now that is not even noting the snide and abusive remarks that are continually put out by apparently another moderator who is also a regular commenter aka: Aafke Art. So the selective moderating and how it is applied is very frustrating. However I will get into that one on a different post. Now what is interesting is what got me instantly moderated with no warning just instantly placed into moderation. Which by the way pissed me the hell off. I am not sure if many of you know this but I can be an ASS when pissed off and it can take me a day or two to calm down. So here is the post and I will insert the part that was actually removed…………bigstick1, on May 18, 2013 at 4:12 pm said:
I second efirefly and maybe Wendy can contribute more on the subject via her husband. Highly interesting.
Aafke-Art, on May 18, 2013 at 5:14 pm said:
Wendy, covering up (for women) was forced upon the Saudi population, by literal force and re-interpretation of religion. I saw a Belgian documentary once, they were in a village in Saudi Arabia, and in the museum there they saw paintings of women wearing the real traditional dress of the area, and they had little caps on their heads, no head scarfs. They talked to a middle aged man and he said that when he was young men from Riyad came to his village and they forced the women to wear abayas and headscarfs. Which is a great hardship for the women as they still have to go out and work in the fields, but now bothered by black cloth.
To me this covering of women in black cloth prisons is really more a luxury urban thing. For women who hardly go out, and only from an airconditioned building into an airconditioned car.
And of course it was a luxury affectation to start with. This complete veiling thing was only for elite Jewish women in the time of the prophet. Common women and slaves were not allowed to veil. Bedouin women did not veil. Mohammeds collection of women did not veil, except the Jewish ones. The Muslims later on just imitated the Jewish elite women.
Probably to look as if they were elite too.
And by now all women are forced into wearing black bags. And this unhealthy bizarre neurotic elitist behavior is spreading like an evil virus, piggy-backing on the back of religion… Here you can see how strangely the world can turn.
bigstick1, on May 18, 2013 at 5:18 pm said:
AA:
Do you have a link to the Belgian documentary?
Wendy, on May 18, 2013 at 5:43 pm said:
AA, didn’t I say that? Was it my use of the word ‘suspect’? I should have left that out then.
Bigstick, what further info do you want? My husband left KSA as a teen and women were still being allowed to dress as they wished and segregation wasn’t enforced as it is today. When we were going for a visit a couple of years ago it was his first time back in many, many years. I did a lot of research and told him what it was going to be like. He couldn’t envision it and didn’t really believe me … until we got there. I was not in shock but he was – big time! He didn’t think it was going to be as severe as it is. Mostly it was the segregation that got him followed closely by the covering and especially the niqab.
bigstick1, on May 18, 2013 at 5:54 pm said:
Does he have pictures of the locals when he was a child of the area that shows a more interactive non-segregated and less uniformed religious garb setting? You don’t have to provide family photos but just snapshots of the public areas.
Thanks for the additional on the trip to Saudi very interesting.
Wendy, on May 18, 2013 at 7:58 pm said:
No he doesn’t. His dad has all the family pictures sadly. Maybe we can get some on our next trip to see the family.
bigstick1, on May 18, 2013 at 8:04 pm said:
Sorry to hear that. Photos of places, times and people can be very comforting and still be able to relay great information about the society.
I hope he can obtain his family photos on his next visit as they are treasures to be shared within your family.
Aafke-Art, on May 19, 2013 at 2:04 am said:
Wendy, I was agreeing with your comment. I like you comments.
I would like to see your husband’s family pictures, I love old pictures, but {Bigstick) I do think there is a big difference in sharing your pictures with friends and putting them out on a huge site on the internet. So having them here is probably not going to happen.
bigstick1, on May 19, 2013 at 10:44 am said:
AA:
I think Wendy and her husband could make that choice and even direct me to a place even Facebook; if chose she could have also inform me if she didn’t want them viewed on the photos of public places.
However I know it galls you if you aka also known as the moderator can’t take snipes shot and taint everything I do with your flare of hostility and usual nastiness.
Wendy, on May 19, 2013 at 12:49 pm said:
I will not be posting pictures here. I do not have a facebook account and it’s doubtful I’ll ever have one … and … if I did have one it would be private. The pictures posted on this blog already clearly show how people dressed at home and on the street and I’ve verified that fact with my husband so I guess people can either believe or not believe them.
bigstick1, on May 19, 2013 at 1:15 pm said:
Wendy:
The comment was not directed at you. I think I was polite enough toward you and you provided a nice explanation.
Thanks again.
I directed the comment to AA because I am sick of her little tacky tactics whether as a moderator or under the AA banner.
Wendy, on May 19, 2013 at 5:53 pm said:
Okay then.
Aafke-Art, on May 19, 2013 at 6:00 pm said:
Oooh, Bigstick… Are you upset? Poor Bigstick I did not know you were so sensitive. And I really do not know what I have said to make you throw a tantrum. Have a candy and stop crying.
bigstick1, on May 19, 2013 at 6:58 pm said:
You do know and you taint what would be nice exchanges often. It gets old.
Aafke-Art, on May 19, 2013 at 7:59 pm said:
And yes, I am one of the moderators. Please keep on topic and keep off the personal attacks and insults to me or any other commentator, otherwise you will be put into moderation, either by me or one of the other moderators.
Okay at this point I posted a comment that went something like this: (Remember this part was removed and the comment by the moderator underneath was placed in.)
AA:
1. I asked Wendy if she had some pictures of public areas not family photos.
2. She stated she had none.
3. Nicely concluded the conversation.
4. AA goes for her usual snipe attack by stating that it was inappropriate of me to ask for family pictures and they would not be published anyway.
5. AA was incorrect in that I did not ask for family pictures but pictures of public areas.
Note: Not included but you need to know:
Of course it should be noted that AA immediate threatens to place in moderation, one should note though that you can go to just about any post and see how AA talks to many bloggers which comes across as obnoxious so who the hell is insulting who????????????
Now at this point the comment above is erased and I am immediately placed in moderation and the shitty comment below is then put out by the moderator. Quite frankly if this is an attack then I am not the sensitive one but the moderator and AA are however, I was addressing my frustration in a mature manner directly to the party and how I felt about it. If they wanted to go down the child like route well they started here and then ensured that the censorship and a blatant attack on me by making it seem that it was a comment that was extreme.
My issue with AA was as follows:
1. She screamed that I was inappropriate for asking ………………(I was not)
2. She inferred that in her capacity as a moderator that she would not allow these pictures to be posted……(I never asked her to post them)
3. The conversation was between myself and Wendy and it had already concluded and Wendy had no pictures so her comments where directed at me as a snipe attack as a means to goad another blogger and to ensure that she as a moderator was going to rub in her authority to me.
American Bedu, on May 20, 2013 at 4:09 am said:
@Bigstick1,
I have reviewed the comments and the beginning of how this thread of attacks started. The comments were friendly until you decided to get insulted for no apparent reason.
Your latest comment has been removed, since you do not have the discipline to stop on your own.
Attacking moderators for moderating the blog will not be allowed. Making it into personal insults is also not allowed.
Let’s focus on helping Carol in her time of need instead.
This is moderator #2.
Now here is where I will concluded for now. However I intend to show additional issues with what the moderator has put out thus far including supporting text that the moderators do not make a smooth easy flow of conversation but in fact create hostility by how the comments are written and the tone of those comments.
Remember I informed the moderator if they just removed the comments I would go away but they did not and I also stated I would stop if they called a truce but they chose not to………….and did I mention I can be an ASS.
bigstick1
